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Sunday, June 6, 1982

June 1942: Batman with a Bow

I wonder if Batman ever thought of installing a people-catapult in the Batmobile?

Borrowing an idea from the Green Arrow would only have been fair, since the Emerald Archer lifted so many from him.

“Except for the archery motif, the ‘Green Arrow and Speedy’ series sounds like a direct swipe of Batman and Robin,” noted comics historian Don Markstein.

The Green Archer — a 1923 Edgar Wallace novel that became a movie serial in 1925 and again in 1940 — was also an obvious influence. 

“In that Columbia Pictures chapter play, the title character ‘mysteriously appears with his deadly bows and arrows whenever needed,’” noted author Ron Goulart.

“Green Arrow was created, if that’s not too strong a word, by Mort Weisinger, editor of DC’s More Fun Comics, who introduced the crime-fighting archer in the 73rd issue of that title (Nov. 1941) — the same one that first featured Aquaman. George Papp illustrated that initial outing, and remained the character’s principal artist for many years,” Markstein said.

“Green Arrow was never as strong a character as the one he was modeled after. Whereas Batman appears intensely motivated — driven, even — Oliver Queen, the man who masqueraded as Green Arrow (Roy Harper, his ward, was Speedy), seemed merely to dabble in crimefighting. Still, Green Arrow was a modest success. Six months after his introduction, he ousted Dr. Fate from the cover of More Fun, and held it, with a few exceptions, until 1946, when he lost that spot to a humorous pair of identical twin detectives, Henry Boltinoff's Dover & Clover.”

Instead of a Batmobile, this then-brown-haired Green Arrow got about in an “Arrowplane” (which, despite the name, functioned as a car).

“Although Weisinger was on record as having said he ‘wasn’t remotely influenced by Batman’ when thinking up the Green Arrow and his boy sidekick Speedy, the feature itself actually looked and sounded like Batman and Robin in Robin Hood costumes, right down to the archery team’s car,” Goulart wrote.

11 comments:

  1. Mike Allwood:
    Guessing Queen took out a copyright!

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  2. Paul Zuckerman:
    See? GA was not just a clone of Batman! He had his own stuff as well!
    The Arrowplane DID fly -- even though it was used as a car. Later on, GA had two separate vehicles.
    I don't know why Don says that created may be too strong a word; Weisinger's character was as much created as any other! The arrow motif may not have been super original but the trick arrow were an innovation from earlier archers who shot to kill. There certainly were any number of imitations or similar characters out there as well.
    GA was actually pretty successful. He was a member of the Seven Soldiers, had solo adventures in two books-Adventure and World's Finest-at the same time, and his stories were second in length to only the lead's in both books until the page count was reduced; AND he survived in his own series for nearly a decade after all of the other, um, second-stringers then Aquaman; AND he was the first added member to the JLA!
    Yeah, there was not much personality in his stories but there never was much at DC for the supporting characters. Only Superman and Batman really got fleshed out, and not even them that much until the mid to late 50s. For years, each strip really only featured three or four characters!
    The same criticism leveled against GA could frankly be applied to a legion of other rich playboy characters with a teen sidekick. And all of them, frankly, are riffs on the Green Hornet, at the very least!

    Bruce Kanin:
    Paul Zuckerman Re: "there was not much personality in his stories". Perhaps that made him ripe for the Denny O'Neill overhaul in the late 60s that gave GA a distinctive personality.

    I replied:
    I think it did. He didn't really emerge as a character until then.

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  3. Bruce Kanin:
    Yep, they were Batman & Robin with arrows, right down to Oliver Queen being rich, the Arrow Cave, etc. I wonder why the Arrowcar is called "Arrowplane" in that rightmost panel.
    I *do* like it when superheroes' names are prefaced by "The". Here we have a rare instance of GA being called "The Green Arrow."

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  4. Ed Erkes:
    Why smash the window?

    I replied:
    For dramatic effect, of course.

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  5. Bob Doncaster:
    The resemblances between the characters always made me quiver.

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  6. Nathan J. Bennett:
    I think Bruce mentioned the whole “copycat” thing during a GA story in the early 2000s.

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  7. Johnny Williams:
    Dan, I enjoyed GA’s adventures as a boy, and found his stories to usually be fun and somehow strangely perhaps ‘accessible’. It’s more of a feeling than perhaps a quantifiable thing.
    I’ll second his success.
    First because of his longevity.
    Second because he was the very First ‘new member’ to be inducted into the then fledgling Justice League.
    Third because he was picked to co-feature in a groundbreaking series with Green Lantern that changed the comics landscape of the time profoundly.
    And fourth because a wildly popular and again very successful series was created from his character. That of course was the CW network’s Arrow.
    Now I have an admission to make here. When Arrow started I wouldn’t watch it. Sight unseen I judged it to be Too derivative of The Dark Knight, and indeed felt at the time cheated because that should have been a ‘Batman’ series, not Green Arrow’s. Heck, they didn’t even call him by his right superhero name.
    However my brilliant Sister was an immediate fan of the show and kept cajoling me to give it a chance and that she Knew that I’d like it.
    She was Correct!
    Once I overcame my unusual reluctance, I’m Not one to generally judge a thing sight unseen, I was hooked! The deeper I got into it the more I appreciated what the show runners were and had created. It was ‘world building’ at it’s finest, utilizing the as yet fully unrealized potential of ‘Ollie’ as his Own man, in a very un-Batman-like narrative.
    I was wrong and told my wonderful Sister so. I sent her a present as well. 💚
    Because I was so behind by then I got to binge-watch a few seasons at a time without having to wait for the next. That was fun.
    So, I love Green Arrow.

    I replied:
    I struggled with "Arrow" and finally gave up. All the flashbacks to the island wore me the hell out.

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  8. David Smith:
    On the Filmation Batman animated series, The Dynamic Duo used their Bat-a-Pults several times

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  9. Philip Rushton:
    It's notable that Cat-Man's Catmobile also had spring-loaded seats!

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  10. Michael Uslan:
    Can someone explain to me how the powers that be at DC never gave Aquaman a shot at a cover on More Fun comics?

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  11. Vincent Mariani:
    The trick arrows were absurd if only due to the fact that the quiver could never acommodate them. But, I wouldn't have it any other way! 🙂

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